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Smithsonian Hosts Superhero Panel
 Industry News, Scoop, Friday, June 09, 2006
Just in time for the release of Bryan Singer's long-awaited
Superman Returns, the Smithsonian's Resident Associate Program
will present an exciting panel called Superman on the Couch: What
Superheroes Really Tell Us About Ourselves and Our Society. The
panel will aim to celebrate and examine the role of superheroes
in popular culture.

Superhero authorities Danny Fingeroth, Dennis O'Neil, Michael
Uslan, and Tom DeFalco are the panelists. Dr. Arnold T. Blumberg,
curator of Geppi's Entertainment Museum, will be the moderator.

Superman on the Couch takes place Thursday, June 22 from 7 to 9
p.m. General admission is $25. Resident Associate Program Members
pay $15. The panel will gather in the Carmichael Auditorium at
the National Museum of American History (14th & Constitution
Ave., N.W., Washington, DC).

To purchase advance tickets, go to:
http://residentassociates.org/otojun/superman.asp

Starlin, Brevoort, Others Join Baltimore Comic-Con
 Industry News, Scoop, Friday, June 09, 2006
Jim Starlin (Dreadstar, Kid Cosmos), Tom Brevoort (New Avengers
editor), Harvey Awards nominee Alex Robinson (Box Office Poison,
Tricked), Dan Slott (She-Hulk), Mike Manley (Draw), Mark McKenna
(Banana Tail), Scott Neely (Scooby Doo), and Jamar Nicholas
(Detective Boogaloo from movie poopshoot.com) are the latest
guests announced for this year's Baltimore Comic-Con.

The September 9-10 convention is held at the Baltimore Convention
Center, just a short walk from the Inner Harbor, and just across
the street from the newly developed Geppi's Entertainment Museum
at Camden Yards.

Chris Staros, publisher of Top Shelf Productions and President of
the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund, has been named as one of the
presenters for the Harvey Awards, which will be held Saturday
night, September 9, after show hours. Details on ticket sales for
the event, which features the only industry awards voted on
exclusively by comics industry professionals in recognition of
their peers, will be announced shortly. Ballots are already
online at www.harveyawards.org.

In addition to Starlin and the other just-announced guests, the
show already has an impressive line-up of creators set, including
Kyle Baker (Why I Hate Saturn, Plasticman), Kurt Busiek (Astro
City, Superman), Jim Calafiore (Exiles), Tommy Castillo (Toe
Tags, Batman), Howard Chaykin (The Shadow, American Flagg!),
Frank Cho (New Avengers, Liberty Meadows), Steve Conley
(Astounding Space Thrills, The Escapist), Amanda Conner (JSA
Classified),Brendon and Brian Fraim (Antiques: The Comic Strip),
Rich Faber (Roboy Red), John Gallagher (Buzzboy, More Fund
Comics), Jimmy Gownley (Amelia Rules!), Cully Hamner (Batman:
Tenses), Dean Haspiel (Quitter, Opposable Thumbs), Marc Hempel
(Sandman: The Kindly Ones, MAD), Jonathan and Joshua Luna (Girls,
Spider-Woman: Origin), Michael Avon Oeming (Powers, What If?),
Jimmy Palmiotti (Jonah Hex, JSA Classified), George Perez (JSA,
JLA/Avengers), Brandon Peterson (X-Men, Strange), Paul Pope (THB,
Batman: Year One Hundred), Eric Powell (The Goon, Marvel
Monsters), Andy Runton (Owly), John K. Snyder III (Doctor Mid-
Nite, Fashion in Action), Mark Sparacio (Heroes for Hire, Shi),
Brian Stelfreeze (Matador), Mark Texeira (Ghost Rider), Robert
Tinnell (The Black Forest, The Living and The Dead), Tim Truman
(GrimJack, Conan), Billy Tucci (Heroes for Hire, Shi), Neil Vokes
(The Wicked West, The Black Forest), Matt Wagner (Grendel,
Batman), Mark Waid (Superman: Birthright, Legion of Super-
Heroes), Mark Wheatley (Mars, Frankenstein Mobster), Bill
Willingham (Fables) and Marv Wolfman (New Teen Titans, Crisis on
Infinite Earths).

Additionally, A Commitment To Our Roots (ACTOR) is sponsoring
Marvel legends Dick Ayers, John Romita, Sr. and John Romita, Jr.
signing and sketching as a fundraiser for the charity and
Gemstone Publishing is bringing Life & Times of Scrooge McDuck
writer-artist Don Rosa following the August release of the Life &
Times Companion.

In addition to Gemstone and Top Shelf Productions, the publisher,
service and manufacturer line-up thus far includes DC Comics,
Image Comics, Century Comics, Archaia Studios Press, TwoMorrows
Publishing, Mercury Comics, Sky-Dog, Renaissance Press, and
LaserMach, Pop Fun Merchandising, AdHouse Books, Ape
Entertainment, E. Gerber Products, Diamond Comic Distributors,
Crusade Fine Arts, Diamond Select Toys, and Insight Studios
Group.

Beginning after the convention concludes, the Diamond Comic
Distributors - Alliance Game Distributors Retailer Summits are
widely recognized as significant gatherings of the industry's top
retailers of new products.

For registered retailers, an open house at Geppi's Entertainment
Museum at Camden Yards, located immediately across the street
from the Baltimore Convention Center, is among the planned Summit
events in Baltimore.

For more information about the Baltimore Comic-Con, visit
www.comicon.com/baltimore

Winsor McCay 1903 Original Strip Art Find
 Industry News, Scoop, Friday, June 09, 2006
By David Welch

Winsor McCay happens to be my all-time favorite comic artist. He
is also considered by most historically-minded comic art
afficionados to be technically the most skilled and most
imaginative. When most Scoop readers hear that name, they will
think of the legendary Sunday comic strip, Little Nemo, that ran
from from 1905 to 1914 and then revived again in brief years in
the 1920s. Next, some readers will also recognize McKay as the
creator of the 1914 animated cartoon, Gertie the Dinosaur. Gertie
is considered the first cartoon character and the quality of
McCay's animation at that early time still astounds animation
buffs to this day. Disney's studio was not able to match McCay's
standard until almost 20 tears later. But there's one
accomplishment of Winsor McCay that even I was not aware of until
last year in 2005. Who the heck are the "Jungle Imps?"

When I was in my early teens in the early '70s, I began getting
involved in the nostalgia craze of that time. I first became
aware of McCay through an 8mm and 16mm film vendor called
Blackhawk Films in Iowa. In those days, they had copies of Gertie
the Dinosaur for sale (the catalog listed the date as 1909 in
error) so I bought one for the whopping price of about $8.

That purchase marked the beginning of my life-long fascination
with Winsor McKay. When I bought John Canemaker's exhaustive 1987
biography of McKay last year off eBay, I saw something in the
page 48-54 section that floored me: he had in 1903 created a
Sunday strip that ran ONLY in the Cincinnati Enquirer called,
"Tales of the Jungle Imps by Felix Fiddle." The book shows three
color examples photographed from heavily worn Sunday newspaper
tear sheets from the McCay family. The color is wonderful and the
brilliant art is obviously McKay. He did 43 different stories for
this strip in 1903 . I could not believe what I was seeing and
reading! In 30+ years of collecting, not once had I ever heard
this strip mentioned by anyone. (see the recent release by
Checker Books called Winsor McCay-Early Works for 39 of the 43
Imps strips shown in black and white along with his other lesser
known strips-- Little Sammy Sneeze, Dreams of a Rarebit Fiend,
and A Pilgrim's Progress).

Now fast forward to 2006. In late January, I was searching around
the internet for some information and values on original McCay
Gertie the Dinosaur drawings. I had bought five in 2005. I came
across the website of an art dealer who had a very nice selection
of Gerties so I decided to call him up and chat. Once we began
talking, he told me something I could not believe---he was at
that very moment holding in his hands the original art to a McCay
Jungle Imps Sunday page that had just arrived that day. And
perhaps the most stunning revelation?----it was HAND-COLORED !
This moment was the beginning of a drama that would take over 2
months to completely unfold. This example--"How the Pelican Got
His Pouch"-- was the first ever to be seen of McCay Jungle Imps
original art.

As we continued to talk, he related that a family in Ohio who had
a family business in sign-making for many decades was the
source... and they were in possession of a total of eleven
different examples that had been in their family for over 100
years. Well, condensing 2+ months into a short (relatively)
story, the art dealer eventually went partners with another art
dealer that I know. A third party became involved called the Ohio
State University Cartoon Research Library... much negotiating and
time passed... and the family sold three and donated two to the
OSU Library and the two art dealers bought the remaining six. As
seasoned collectors can guess, I am also editing out much deal-
related "drama."

An April 24,2006 press release from OSU curator, Lucy Shelton
Caswell, said this: The Ohio State University Cartoon Research
Library acquired five of the original hand-colored drawings from
their finder: "How the Turtle Got His Shell," "How the Quillypig
Got His Quills," "How the Rhinoceros Lost His Beauty," "How the
Hound Got So Thin," and "Fourth of July in the Jungle." "It's
remarkable that these originals would turn up in Columbus, Ohio
which is the only city in the country with an academic library
devoted to cartoons," said Caswell. "We're delighted that the
family who found these important works understood that some of
them belonged in an institution where they would be preserved and
protected while also being made accessible to scholars,
researchers and students." The finder has asked to remain
anonymous. (excerpt from the press release.) The "4th of July"
example is one of the 4 missing from the previously mentioned
Checker Books release.

The two art dealers obtained "How the Tiger Got His Stripes",
"How the Pig Got His Appetite", "How the Camel Got His Back Up",
"How the Snake Lost His Body", "Why the Parrot Learned to Talk",
and "How the Pelican Got His Pouch".

So what are the Jungle Imps strips about, you ask? John Canemaker
mentions in his biography, "Of all Winsor McCay's work
experiences during his five years on Cincinnati newspapers, none
would prove more significant for his future than the proto-comic
strip he created for the Enquirer."The forty-three tales were
based on poems written by George Randolph Chester (an editor at
the Cincinnati Enquirer), running from January to November 1903.
The stories were similar to Rudyard Kipling's Just So Stories. In
each tale, an animal's anatomy is accounted for with stories
involving three mischievious and somewhat cruel "jungle imps,"
and their pestering of various animals. John Canemaker says,
"Tales of the Jungle Imps was Winsor McCay's first attempt in an
extended series format to bring together all of his eclectic
talents in a cohesive graphic style. On each page he found fresh
ways to combine his exquisite draftsmanship, dynamic staging,
sense of caricature, mastery of perspective, and feeling for
motion with his version of the decorative art nouveau style."

Most educated comic art dealers would agree that this small find
could rate as the single most historically significant comic art
find in the past 20 years. And here is something to back up that
statement: the only example of the 11 Imps pages found that made
it to public sale was the Pelican. As stated earlier, five went
to OSU. Of the six examples that found their way into the hands
of the two art dealers, ALL the other five examples ended up
selling to the first people who saw them in person. The original
art dealer that I first contacted about the Gerties was showing
them to certain clients at his gallery just to let them see what
they looked like. None of these individuals would walk away
without owning one! That the pages were hand-colored by McCay
himself makes their visual appearance stunning and irresistable.
So, three individuals bought one each and another person bought
two.

In the past six months a Little Nemo sold privately for $55,000
and in Heritage earlier this year, a Little Nemo that had been
cut up and reassembled and was missing the top title panel went
for $40,000. Illustration House ran a weaker Nemo page recently
that realized close to $28,000. So, 100 years later, McCay's art
is still in high demand.

In Memoriam: George Kashdan
 Industry News, Scoop, Friday, June 09, 2006
Writer Mark Evanier has noted on his website that former DC
Comics writer/editor George Kashdan has passed away last
Saturday, due to stroke-related complications. He was 78.
A native of Bronx, NY, Kashdan landed a staff editorial position
at DC Comics immediately following his graduation from University
of Chicago. During his tenure there, from 1946 to 1968, he worked
on several popular and enduring titles including House of
Mystery, Tales of the Unexpected, Rip Hunter, Time Master,
Metamorpho, Teen Titans, The Brave and the Bold, Blackhawk, Sea
Devils, Bomba the Jungle Boy, and Hawkman.

He also wrote several scripts for animated shows such as The
Mighty Hercules (1963) and for DC's television projects,
including The Superman-Aquaman Hour.
After leaving DC, he wrote stories for Gold Key Comics including
The Twilight Zone and Grimm's Ghost Stories. He also worked on
Flash Gordon and Star Trek, and penned several childrens' books
for Western's non-comic divisions.

Scoop extends its deepest sympathies to Kashdan's family and
friends.

Create-Your-Own-Hero with Buzzboy
 Industry News, Scoop, Friday, June 09, 2006
Sky-Dog Press is offering young comic fans the chance of a
lifetime: to create their very own super-hero and have it
featured in a published comic book. That's right! To coincide
with Diamond Comic Distributors' Kid Friendly Month in August,
Sky-Dog is holding a contest in which kids can submit their
created character for the chance to appear in the newest Buzzboy
comic

Winners, who will be announced at this year's Baltimore Comicon
on Saturday, September 9, 2006, will have their character drawn
into the third issue of Buzzboy: Sidekicks Rule! There will be
two winners, one from each of the age groups 5-11 and 12-17, and
in addition to having their character appear in the comic, the
winners will also receive the Buzzboy graphic novels, original
artwork and comic art supplies from www.DickBlick.com.

"Comics contests and how-to's were my favorite part of comics as
a kid," said John Gallagher in a press release. Gallagher writes,
draws, and publishes Buzzboy's adventures. "This is just my way
of passing on the magic to a new generation of comics and graphic
novel readers."

En-Gage-ing the Comic Industry
 Industry News, Scoop, Friday, June 09, 2006
With a new book from both DC and Marvel Comics coming out later
this year, Christos Gage is certainly engaging the comic book
industry with his ability to tell diverse, character-driven
stories.

From DC Comics, Gage will be scripting the adventures of
Wildstorm's relaunch of Stormwatch, which will follow a new team
know as the Post Human Division (P.H.D.) as they set out to stop
potential super villain threats before the escalate to the point
where Stormwatch Prime is needed. The on-going title will feature
a set of relatively second-string characters taking center stage
under the leadership and guidance of a New York Police officer.

"... [T]hey're the type of characters who traditionally haven't
had a starring role in comics...the sidekicks, the support staff,
the girlfriends, and yes, the cannon fodder," said Gage. "But
Stormwatch Director Jackson King is hoping that, if the new Post
Human Division does its job, they won't be the opening act for
the big guns at all. They'll make the big guns' presence
unnecessary by stopping post-human problems before they escalate,
freeing up Stormwatch Prime to tackle things like alien invasions
and natural disasters."

In addition to the on-going series at Wildstorm, Gage will be
heading up a new Union Jack mini-series with artist Mike Perkins.
Union Jack, who has recently resurfaced in the Marvel U courtesy
of Ed Brubaker's current run on Captain America, will focus on
the espionage and super-spy aspects of the character as he
defends the crown in Great Britain.

"We're opening the first issue with a battle against vampires as
a nod to Union Jack's past, but the new mini is much more in the
James Bond/Steranko vein," said Gage. "We're trying to show what
he means as a defender of England - Britain's Captain America, if
you will - as well as what makes him unique and distinct from Cap
or, say, Daredevil. The fact that artist Mike Perkins is a
gigantic fan of the Steranko espionage stories, and draws flying
cars and sexy super-agents so beautifully, made the decision to
go this route even easier!"

Be sure to check out both series by visiting DC Comics at
www.dccomics.com and Marvel Comics at www.marvel.com
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[ALL THE RAGE and LYING IN THE GUTTERS are originally posted
online on Sunday and Monday respectively so the information here
is almost a week old. Other items above are more current.-  D.L.]


From Blair Marnell in his ALL THE RAGE Gossip Column at:
http://www.SilverBulletComicBooks.com
Write to him at: blairm@silverbulletcomicbooks.com

                          RUMOUR BARRIER

"I accept that the following material is rumour and gossip,
intended to entertain only. I won't repeat the information
inside as fact. I understand if I want the truth, I will go to
Silver Bulletins. I enter freely with my mind open and my
blinkers off."

Now, on to the rumours . . .

[NOTE: this column may be slightly edited for language. - D.L.]

ATR Confidential
By Blair Marnell

Welcome to back to another edition of ATR.

Well folks, I made a major tactical error while writing this
week's column. I originally planned to run a full transcript of
my appearance last Wednesday on Fanboy Radio, but it's WAY too
long to run as a text piece. Unfortunately, I didn't come to that
conclusion until after I had spent a couple of hours transcribing
it...

Anyway, this is going to set us back bit, so I apologize for
that. Hopefully, we'll get this up by Sunday night...

Overheard On The Radio

If you didn't hear FBR last Wednesday, you can catch the free
podcast here. Listeners who caught the show live got the first
word on the new Phoenix: Warsong miniseries. But that wasn't the
only thing I mentioned. Here are a few highlights:
Confirmation of Brian Azzarello and Lee Bermejo's five issue
miniseries staring The Joker. I also mentioned that I had some
art to show for this one... (more on that shortly).

Confirmation of Adam Warren's Iron Man miniseries, which will
be called Hyper Velocity. The artist attached is Brian Denham.
(more on this shortly, as well).

Rumors are swirling that Bruce Jones' Warlord relaunch may be
canceled.

More Thor developments are said to be coming in Fantastic Four
# 537.

The first issue of Justice League of America by Brad Meltzer
and Ed Benes may be expanded to 38 pages.

Keith Giffen & Shannon Denton have new one-shot coming up from
Image called Tabula Rasa.

Giffen will also be reteaming with J.M. DeMatteis on a new
three issue Planetary Brigade miniseries from Boom! Studios.

This Has A "Radio Free Rage" Factor of Ten Out of Ten

Pack Your Bags?

Despite heated denials two weeks ago in LITG, rumors persist that
Mark Waid is leaving 52. This is one of the most volatile rumors
to come across in a while, with some sources flat out denying it.
But, some of my most reliable sources are saying that it's
already happened, with some "unhappiness" coming from the
editorial department for the word leaking out before they could
"spin it to their satisfaction." On even stranger note, a few of
my long time associates repeatedly stated their fears that this
rumor might be traced back to them, even though they weren't
involved in the original leak. I'm very curious as to what's
brought them to this level of paranoia...

This Has A "Who Said That?!" Factor of Five Out of Ten

Ballad of Serenity

We've received word that the new Serenity miniseries from Dark
Horse will be titled Better Days and will be set during the
Firefly TV series. Why? Well, for starters, all of the characters
were still around at that point in the time. It's also said to
explore some plotlines that weren't used in the original series.
As expected, Joss Whedon will be co-writing this one with Brett
Matthews, his collaborator on the first Serenity mini. No word
yet on the artist, but Adam Hughes is rumored to be doing the
covers.

As for stories that take place after the Serenity feature film...
the success of the Serenity DVD may allow for a true sequel to be
made. It's just talk at this point, there are no deals and no
guarantees...

But there's still hope...

This Has A "Burn The Land And Boil The Sea" Factor of Eight Out
of Ten

Superior Tech

One more bit of business from the Fanboy Radio appearance, the
previously mentioned Iron Man: Hyper Velocity miniseries will run
for five issues starting in December. As stated earlier, Adam
Warren and Brian Denham are the creative team attached. Denham
has also mentioned it on his Deviant Art Home page:

Here it is! My Marvel limited series is finally here. Comics
legend Adam Warren writes and provides layouts for this intense
action series. Pencils and inks by me! Well--all the art was done
in Illustrator so I guess I'm just "artist" instead of Penciler.
Styluser doesn't have a nice sound. I'm using a hyper realistic
style on this series to counter Adam's manga style. So if you
hate manga but wanted to read an Adam Warren comic this one's for
you. If you love Manga--I brought the speedlines and import
tuners!

Denham also posted an early page from the book as an example of
how he uses the Illustrator program:
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/30081882/

This Has A "Happy Hogan" Factor of Nine Out of Ten

Project Next Men

Earlier this week at his message board, John Byrne dropped the
following tidbit:

Anyway -- hold off for a bit. The NEXT MEN "phone books"
are still in the pipeline, and when they come along,
everything will be included.

Now, for those of you who may not remember, Next Men was Byrne's
creator owned title that came out from Dark Horse in the 90s. It
was also, really, really good.

Color me intrigued on this one. Though come to think of it, I
would like to have these in color, once they're recollected.
Hopefully "phone books" doesn't mean black and white...

This Has A "Flame About This High" Factor of Seven Out of Ten

It's Gotta Be The Shoes

Some of my readers have written to tell that some of the hottest
shoes coming out this month are... Nike Air Sneakers based on the
Fantastic Four?!

http://p093.ezboard.com/fniketalkfrm19.showMessageRange?topicID=6
1945.topic&start=1&stop=20

Yes, it's true. There are shoes based on the Human Torch, Mr.
Fantastic, the Invisible Woman, the Thing and Dr. Doom.

From what I've been told, there's a lot of demand for these,
especially for the Invisible Woman "clear shoe." I hear that some
"entrepreneurs" are already selling for hundreds of dollars!

It sounds ridiculous, but Nike Air has its subculture of fans and
collectors much like our own subculture. This is a rare meeting
of the two worlds...

This Has An "Air Apparent" Factor of Six Out of Ten

Stick a fork in me... Well, you get the idea. See you next week.

Later,
Blair

PS If anyone has any rumors, stories or news to share, please
email me at blairm@silverbulletcomicbooks.com. Thanks to everyone
who has been sending stuff in. It's greatly appreciated.
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Items found in Rich Johnston's "Lying in the Gutters" column at
http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/ which are all rumors
or gossip so take any of it with a BIG bucket of salt!
 Write to Rich at: richjohnston@gmail.com

Rich heard rumors . . .

The new artist on Warren Ellis' "Desolation Jones," to replace
the Dini-"Detective"-bound JH Williams, is Danijel Zezelj.

I understand that the creative team behind the ongoing "Batwoman"
series, to be launched later this year/early next year, will be
Devin Grayson and Dustin Nguyen.

From Elite Casting
FANTASTIC FOUR 2
"Casting is now in process. We are looking for many different
"TYPES". If you are interested in auditioning please contact
production for more instructions on how to submit your headshot
and resume.
"The Fantastic Four will battle Silver Surfer and his planet-
eating master Galactus."

Mark Stafford is working on a series for Dark Horse written by
Bryan Talbot.
Currently, he is also cartoonist in residence at the Cartoon
Museum for the next thirteen weeks. http://www.cartooncentre.com/

Bryan Singer is still editing "Superman Returns." Currently at
three hours, he's been ordered to bring it down to under two-and-
a-half.

From an interview with Wesley Snipes in "Men's Fitness" magazine
this month:
"We're actually talking about doing Black Panther - he was the
first African American superhero. He was around before Blade.
He's the original. We've already done a lot of work on it. We
hope to have a director soon."
Sorry Wesley. He was an African African superhero.

Could Marvel Comics' untraditional high standing in the Harvey
Awards nominations be due to Marvel actually sending out
nomination forms to staff and creators, as opposed to throwing
them in the bin?

It's been widely reported that "Absolute Sandman" will collect
the first 20 issues of the series, the first 18 of which will be
recoloured to correct mistakes, suit a computerized system and
modern sensibilities.

Newsarama have bought out The Great Curve and turned it into the
official Newsarama blog. http://blog.newsarama.com/

I made quite a fuss last week about the decisions of various
retailers whether to stock or not to stock Alan Moore and Melinda
Gebbie's "Lost Girls".
But who thought, whatever the new social climate, that a chain
such as Wal-Mart would happily sell the book? Without a content
warning or anything?

Start a countdown until that link disappears.

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=4214722
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COMICS OBSCURA                                        Mike Curtis
                                           shandafa@cyberback.com

[COMICS OBSCURA are facts Mike Curtis has dug out during his 30
years of collecting Superman and writing about comics. His
website for his comic imprint is www.shandafantasyarts.net ]

MYSTERY SUPERMAN #1

Bud Collyer was that rarest of Superman portrayers, having done
the job in three consecutive decades.  He was the original voice
of Superman on radio, as well as doing the voice in several of
the Fleischer cartoons, finally voicing the Man of Steel in the
1960's Filmation cartoons.  Unlike most other radio stars, there
are no pictures of Collyer attired as Superman.  Part of this is
due to the fact his identity was kept secret from the listeners
until he revealed it to do publicity for the groundbreaking UNITY
HOUSE episodes.  Another explanation is that Collyer heard the
comments made when Ray Middleton played Superman at the World's
Fair and didn't want comparisons to his build vs Superman's.
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