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Subject: [India Thinkers Net] Happy Holi and a host of other postings - March05, 2007





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From: Ajay Singh Niranjan <ajay_uor@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun Mar 4, 2007
Subject: HOLI – Spreading Colors of Love for Uniting our Hearts

HAPPY HOLI

   May this holi splurge your life with colors, making every moment a true
celebration of love’ n life.



   HOLI – Spreading Colors of Love for Uniting our Hearts

   LET THIS HOLI BE A TIME WHEN WE CHANGE
NOT ONLY THE COLOR OF OUR FACES,
BUT THE COLOR OF OUR HEARTS.

   LET US NOT ONLY “PLAY” HOLI,
BUT LET US BECOME HOLY.

   LET THE ONLY COLOR THAT TRULY PENETRATES OUR BEINGS,
BE THE COLOR OF GOD.

   FOR, ON THE MORNING AFTER HOLI
THE OTHER COLORS WILL WASH AWAY.

    BUT WE MUST LET THE COLOR OF GOD BE INDELIBLE
IN OUR EYES, IN OUR EARS AND IN OUR HEARTS.

                                                                             -
by Swami Chidanand Saraswatiji


   warm regards & thanks
   AJAY SINGH NIRANJAN

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From: Parvez Jamasji <parvez1942@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun Mar 4, 2007
Subject: Re: [indiathinkersnet] CC News Letter 03/03-America's Musharraf Dilelmma  

>>>>>>>>>>
   There is therefore, at a minimum, a need to be alert to the possibility of subversion of the state from within, and, more widely, to ascertain if those vested with power without having to account for it have a sustainable ethical grid\\\\\\\\\\

   Absolutly right !
   Not that  "those vested with power" havn't sold the country down the drain
before ?
   P

"editor@countercurrents.org" <editor@countercurrents.org> wrote:


Controlling The Men In Shadows
By Firdaus Ahmed

http://www.countercurrents.org/hamed030307.htm

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From: Regi P George <george_regi@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon Mar 5, 2007
Subject: RE: [indiathinkersnet] He is 81, but still Venomous  

>>>>>>>>>
This thug should have been thrown in the solitary long ago.
>>>>>>>>

:):):).



What kind of Solitary we can give to the one who living in Bottomless pit?

Adnan Kashogi and Dawood Ibrahim are his best friends!

regi

I. K. Shukla@yahoo.com wrote:                                  
This thug should have been thrown in the solitary long ago.

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From: WebXpurt <webxpurt@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon Mar 5, 2007
Subject: Fwd: Forced Conversions

In a message dated 3/4/07, media_monitor group writes:

Muslims accused of blackmail to make student girls
convert
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article1464601.ece
- Nicola Woolcock

Radical Muslims are being accused of blackmailing
young Hindu and Sikh women into changing religion in
“groomed conversions” on campuses.

The men aggressively target vulnerable university
students by using the fear of being dishonoured to
force them to convert, community leaders have told The
Times. Many befriend their victims, then threaten to
tell their families that they are in a sexual
relationship with a Muslim. Some teenagers are said to
have been drugged and photographed in compromising
positions.

Many comply because they are so afraid of shaming
their parents or being rejected by their communities.

Police are aware of the problem. Sir Ian Blair, the
Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police, recently
attended a Hindu conference where the issue was
raised. But police are powerless to act unless
incidents are reported. This rarely happens because
the stigma of a child converting to Islam often
silences Sikh and Hindu parents.

Community elders say that the practice is widespread
but their estimates vary from 100 annual incidents
nationwide to 120 in the past few months in the South
East alone.

Ranjeet Singh, of the British Organisation of Sikh
Students, said: “There are cases of aggressive
techniques, of drugging and of rape, of the man taking
photos and blackmailing the girls into converting.

“They know that by dishonouring the girls, they will
make their families disown them. In the past few
months there have been about 120 cases in Luton and
the South East. It’s a problem that has been going on
for a while, but a lot of people are reluctant to come
forward and there’s not much being done.

“It’s not the whole Muslim community, it’s extremist
individuals. Some girls are very innocent and
vulnerable when they go to university. Then they are
befriended by these men. We know of some whose lives
have been ruined.”

Some of the young women have suffered physical
violence. Others have said that the men claimed to
have been paid to convert their victims.

Ramesh Kallidai, secretary-general of the Hindu Forum
of Britain, said: “The main problem is these girls
feel very vulnerable and intimidated by these men.
They talk about it to their friends, who tell us what
is happening, but don’t want to speak to the police.
Some families are completely broken apart by it. It
becomes difficult to admit in public.

“One girl was beaten up when she refused to convert.
She is petrified. She only spoke to one other girl
about it, who contacted us.”

One Sikh organisation sets up telephone helplines and
arranges visits to temples to raise awareness of the
problem. Its leader, who wishes his identity and the
group’s to remain anonymous, said: “This is very much
taboo. These issues have been going on for many years
and come to the boil at university.

“I deal with many very serious cases. There are
horrific examples of abuse and blackmail, with men
saying they’re going to tell the girl’s parents. Then
they’re pretty much trapped. We call it groomed
conversions. Some of the girls go through with it
because they feel they have no choice.

“The men start a relationship with them, with the
agenda of conversion down the line. Sometimes they
take a picture of her in a compromising position. It’s
so easy with camera phones. An 18-year-old girl ends
up in a situation that she can’t control.”

He said that the extremists were exploiting the Sikh
community’s tendency to treat conversion as a grave
dishonour, adding: “That’s a cultural mindset we need
to tackle. It’s the worst thing you could face — worse
than bankruptcy or losing your job.”

A Metropolitan Police spokeswoman confirmed that
officers had attended a Hindu security conference last
month. She said: “We are aware of it as an issue that
concerns the Hindu community but are not aware,
without further research, of any specific incidents
reported to police. We would encourage anyone who has
been targeted in this way to seek help.”

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UK Muslims converting our girls: Hindus
http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/mar/03uk.htm

Hindu and Sikh leaders in the United Kingdom have
accused radical Muslims of blackmailing young women
from their communities into changing religion in
groomed conversions on university campuses.

"It's not the whole Muslim community, it's extremist
individuals. Some girls are very innocent and
vulnerable when they go to university. Then these men
befriend them. We know of some whose lives have been
ruined," said Ranjeet Singh of the British
Organisation of Sikh Students.

"It's a problem that has been going on for a while,
but a lot of people are reluctant to come forward and
there's not much being done," he said.

Ramesh Kallidai, secretary general of the Hindu Forum
of Britain, said: "One girl was beaten up when she
refused to convert. She is petrified. She only spoke
to one other girl about it, who contacted us.

"The main problem is these girls feel very vulnerable
and intimidated by these men. They talk about it to
their friends, who tell us what is happening but don't
want to speak to the police."

The police are aware of the problem and Sir Ian Blair,
the Commissioner of Metropolitan Police, recently
attended a Hindu conference where the issue was
raised.

Kallidai said some families were completely broken
apart by the incidents, which were difficult to admit
in public. Singh also alleged there were cases of
aggressive techniques, of drugging and of rape, of the
man taking photos and blackmailing the girls into
converting.

"They know that by dishonouring the girls, they will
make their families disown them. In the past few
months there have been about 120 cases in Luton and
the South East," Singh said.

Community leaders alleged some young women had
suffered physical violence. Others have said that the
men claimed to have been paid to convert their
victims.

One Sikh organisation has set up telephone helplines
and arranged visits to temples to raise awareness of
the problem.

The police are powerless to act unless incidents are
reported. This rarely happens because the stigma of a
child converting to Islam often silences Sikh and
Hindu parents, said community leaders.

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From: Pradip Kumar Datta <pradip200@yahoo.com>
 Date: Mon Mar 5, 2007
Subject: Only five km Bangla border fenced in ’06?

Only five km Bangla border fenced in ’06? By a Staff Reporter GUWAHATI, March 4: Fencing along the Indo-Bangladesh border in Asom sector seems to be abysmally slow although it is an admitted fact that the international border with Bangladesh is marked by high degree of porosity, thereby making the efforts to check illegal cross-border activities a challenging task. “The main problem is illegal migration into India from Bangladesh,” sources in the Ministry of Home Affairs said quoting its annual document for the year  2005-2006. According to the latest information, about a 65-km stretch along the Asom-Bangladesh border is yet to be fenced. The unfenced stretch along the international border in Asom was about 70 km in early 2006, the MHA data said. That means that only 5 km border fencing was done in 2006. According to the data provided by Asom Revenue and Assam Accord Implementation Minister Dr Bhumidhar Barman in the floor of the State Assembly last week, 150.607 km of the 267.30-km Asom-Bangladesh border has been fenced so far by the Assam Public Works Department, one of the seven agencies all over the country that have been entrusted by the Centre to complete the fencing work along the 3,286-km-long Indo-Bangladesh border. The minister said that the fencing work was in progress in another stretch of 26.358 km border, which was targeted to be completed by March, while the work in the remaining 37.909 km was yet to start. However, the MHA’s annual report last year said that barring the 400-km-stretch along Indo-Bangla border in Mizoram, the entire border fencing project was expected to be completed by the fiscal 2006-2007. Another cause of concern along the Indo-Bangladesh border is its riverine stretch measuring about 107 km. The Comptroller and Auditor General (CAG), in his annual report three years back, had expressed his concern over the unsealed part of the riverine border. “With the riverine stretch of the border left unfenced, the primary objective of fighting illegal migration stands defeated,” he said. However, there is no river police to guard the riverine border in Asom, said the minister. According to him, it is only the river wing of the BSF that covers the area.

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