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From: yogi sikand <ysikand@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue Jun 7, 2005
Subject: Join New Yahoo Group on South Asian Leftists Dialoguing With Religion  

Friends,

For too long have progressive intellectuals and groups ignored the powerful appeal of religion in shaping popular discourse and politics. By doing so we have allowed fanatics and fascists to assert their claim of speaking for religious and community 'interests', leading to unimaginable murder and destruction. We have also been guilty of a blind, mechanical application of a Eurocentric understanding of 'Revolution' that has little or no role for religion or spirituality. Just as progressive intellectuals and groups need to seriously revise their stance on religion so, too, we believe, must religious practitioners take what Leftists are saying more seriously. There is an urgent need for a closer dialogue between the Left and religious practitioners, to work together for social justice and communal harmony in South Asia, which, we believe, are as central to true spirituality as they is to the agenda of the Left.
This discussion group aims at helping promote this sort of dialogue. We welcome discussion on a range of issues, including religion and politics, communalism, fundamentalism and its links with imperialism and fascism, interfaith dialogue, rights of gender and sexual minorities, alternate, progressive understandings of religion and liberation theology. We do not confine ourselves to any particular religious tradition. Although the main focus of our discussions would be Hinduism, Islam, Christianity, Buddhism, Sikhism as well as Tribal and Dalit religions (including the multiple interpretations and traditions within each of these broad categories) we welcome insights drawing on other religious traditions as well. Our geographical focus is South Asia (India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Bhutan and Nepal, but reflections drawn from other areas are also welcome.
We invite you to join this list and contribute your views on religion and the Left. To join, click on

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/southasianleftistsdialoguingwithreligion
 

 
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From: Sukla Sen <suklasen@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue Jun 7, 2005 8:46pm
Subject: Religious zeal sets U.S. apart from allies  

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20050606.wreli0606/EmailBNStory/International/

Religious zeal sets U.S. apart from allies

By RACHEL ZOLL

Monday, June 6, 2005 Updated at 10:43 AM EDT

Associated Press

Religious devotion sets the United States apart from
some of its closest allies. Americans profess
unquestioning belief in God and are far more willing
to mix faith and politics than people in other
countries, AP-Ipsos polling found.

In Western Europe, where Pope Benedict XVI complains
that growing secularism has left churches unfilled on
Sundays, people are the least devout among the 10
countries surveyed for the Associated Press by Ipsos.

Only Mexicans come close to Americans in embracing
faith, the poll found. Unlike Americans, however,
Mexicans strongly object to clergy lobbying
legislators, in line with the nation's historical
opposition to church influence.

"In the United States, you have an abundance of
religions trying to motivate Americans to greater
involvement," Roger Finke, a sociologist at Penn State
University, said. "It's one thing that makes a
tremendous difference here."

The polling was conducted in May in the United States,
Australia, Britain, Canada, France, Germany, Italy,
Mexico, South Korea and Spain.

Nearly all U.S. respondents said faith is important to
them, and only 2 per cent said they do not believe in
God. Almost 40 per cent said religious leaders should
try to sway politicians, notably higher than in other
countries.

"Our nation was founded on Judeo-Christian policies,
and religious leaders have an obligation to speak out
on public policy, otherwise they're wimps," said David
Black, a retiree from Osborne, Pa., who agreed to be
interviewed after he was polled.

In contrast, 85 per cent of French object to clergy
activism ??” the strongest opposition of any nation
surveyed. France has strict curbs on public religious
expression and, according to the poll, 19 per cent are
atheists. South Korea is the only other nation with
that high a percentage of nonbelievers.

Australians are generally split over the importance of
faith, while two-thirds of South Koreans and Canadians
said religion is central to their lives. People in all
three countries strongly oppose mixing religion and
politics.

Highlights
Australia: Three-fourths of Australians say religious
leaders should not try to influence government
decisions. Just over half say religion is important in
their lives. Just under half say they definitely
believe in God, though some have occasional doubts.
Australians are not closely aligned with one religion.
The Roman Catholic church claims the largest share at
27 percent.
Britain: A majority of Britons, 57 percent, say
religion is not that important to them. Three-fourths
think religious leaders should not try to influence
government decisions. Only about a third say they
definitely believe in God, and some of those admit to
occasional doubts. Almost six in 10 Britons describe
themselves as Protestant, with 14 per cent saying
they're Catholic and 19 per cent saying "no religion."
Canada: Almost two-thirds of Canadians say religion is
important to them, but most seem to prefer that
religion and politics not mix too closely. Seven in 10
Canadians say religious leaders should not try to
influence government decisions. A majority of
Canadians say they believe in God, though some
believers admit to occasional doubts. Four in 10
Canadians describe themselves as Catholic, 14 per cent
as Protestant, with others saying they had other
religions or no religion.
France: Though many French describe themselves as
Roman Catholics, nearly half either say they do not
believe in God or are agnostics. They overwhelmingly
believe that religious leaders should not try to
influence government decisions, with 85 per cent
taking that view.
Germany: Most Germans say they do not think religious
leaders should try to influence government decisions,
and about half say they do not believe in God, though
many in that group say they do believe in some kind of
higher power. Just over half say religion is important
in their own lives. More than a third, 36 per cent,
said they were Protestant, while about a fourth said
they were Catholic.
Italy: Italians are overwhelmingly Roman Catholic and
most, 80 per cent, say religion is important to them.
Yet almost two-thirds say they do not think religious
leaders should try to influence government decisions.
More than two-thirds said they definitely believe in
God.
Mexico: Mexicans are as devoutly religious as people
in the United States. Eight in 10 in the heavily
Catholic country said they definitely believe in God,
and slightly more said religion is important in their
own lives. But three-fourths of Mexicans oppose
religious leaders' getting involved in politics.
South Korea: Two-thirds of South Koreans say religion
is important in their own personal lives, although
only half said they definitely believe in God.
Two-thirds said religious leaders should not try to
influence government decisions. About one-third in
South Korea identified themselves as Christians ??”
either Catholic or Protestant ??” and one-fourth
identified themselves as Buddhist. Four in 10 said
they have no religion.
Spain: More than half of Spaniards say that religion
is not important in their personal lives. About half
say they definitely believe in God, and three-fourths
say religious leaders should not try to influence
government decisions. The lukewarm enthusiasm for
religion comes even though Spain is heavily Roman
Catholic, with eight in 10 describing themselves as
Catholic.
United States: People in the United States have some
of the strongest religious sentiments of all the
countries polled. Eight in 10 say they definitely
believe in God, and most in that group say they
believe it without doubt. Almost nine in 10 say
religion is important in their own personal lives.
Almost four in 10, 37 per cent, said they believe
religious leaders should try to influence government
decisions, the highest rate of any country polled.
The AP-Ipsos polls of about 1,000 adults in each of
the countries were taken May 12-26. Each has a margin
of sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage
points.
Associated Press

Researchers disagree over why people in the United
States have such a different religious outlook, said
Brent Nelsen, an expert in politics and religion at
Furman University in South Carolina.

Some say rejecting religion is a natural response to
modernization and consider the United States a strange
exception to the trend. Others say Europe is the
anomaly; people in modernized countries inevitably
return to religion because they yearn for tradition,
according to the theory.

Some analysts, like Mr. Finke, use a business model.
According to his theory, a long history of religious
freedom in the United States created a greater supply
of worship options than in other countries, and that
proliferation inspired wider observance. Some European
countries still subsidize churches, in effect
regulating or limiting religious options, Mr. Finke
said.

History also could be a factor.

Many countries other than the United States have been
through bloody religious conflict that contributes to
their suspicion of giving clergy any say in policy.

A variety of factors contribute to the sentiment about
separating religion and politics.

"In Germany, they have a Christian Democratic Party,
and they talk about Christian values, but they don't
talk about them in quite the same way that we do," Mr.
Nelsen said. "For them, the Christian part of the
Christian values are held privately, and it's not that
acceptable to bring those out into the open."

In Spain, where the government subsidizes the Roman
Catholic Church, and in Germany, which is split
between Catholics and Protestants, people are about
evenly divided over whether they consider faith
important. The results are almost identical in
Britain, whose state church, the Church of England, is
struggling to fill pews.

Italians are the only European exception in the poll.
Eighty per cent said religion is significant to them,
and just over half said they unquestioningly believe
in God.

Even in Italy, however, home to the Catholic Church,
resistance to religious engagement in politics is
evident. Only three in 10 think the clergy should try
to influence government decisions; a lower percentage
in Spain, Germany and England said the same.

Within the United States, some of the most pressing
policy issues involve complex moral questions ??” such
as gay marriage, abortion and stem cell research ??”
that understandably draw religious leaders into public
debate, said John Green, an expert on religion and
politics at the University of Akron.

The poll found Republicans are much more likely than
Democrats to think clergy should try to influence
government decisions ??” a sign of the challenges ahead
for Democrats as they try to reach out to more
religious voters.

"Rightly or wrongly, Republicans tend to perceive
religion as, quote-unquote, 'on their side,'" Mr.
Green said.

The survey did find trends in belief that transcend
national boundaries. Women tend to be more devout than
men, and older people have stronger faith than younger
people.

The Associated Press-Ipsos polls of about 1,000 adults
in each of the 10 countries were taken May 12-26. Each
has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3
percentage points.














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