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[1] From: Shahmeer Sariyo <ssariyo@yahoo.com Date: Wed Aug 3, 2005 0:13am Subject: Re: (sindhiana) Re: [sindhmedia] Message from the People of Hiroshima....2 ssariyo True - Sindhi's are simple, secular, sophisticated and spiritual people (the 4S of Sindhi identity. They do believe, preach and practice in the famous saying: ""guziri saa guzirii" (past is past)." But those are the real children of Sindh - they are the true Sindhis. I don't think that you are a true son of Sindh!!! You say but what you say you do not do!! You preach but not practice. In these forums you have written about past - guzriala ggaalhiyuun and you continue harping about past. In these forums, you have written about Mohammad Bin Qasim and the Arab invasion of Sindh - about the so-called atrocities committed and the forced conversions of Hindus, etc. etc. Why?? Who do you want to remind naive Sindhis about the sad and tragic past? Why do you want yourself and others to live in past? Why do you want to put a knife and a sword and an atomic bomb in the one body of Sindhis (Hindus and Muslims), who love each other and understand and respect each other.). People, like you spread hatred for religions and disharmony amongst simple, straightforward, generous and gregarious Sindhis. Sindhis must move on - the world has moved far, far ahead!!! Sindhis must march on - forget the past and live in the present and plan and aprroach the furure with science, technology, arts, literature, poetry, culture, Sufi and spiritual values and thought and practice and love and zest for life and respect for humanity!!! So, please, please, stop fooling around and misguiding the great nation of Sindh!!!! Haqu Maujuud, Duaguu, Dr Shahmeer Sariyo Gul Agha <gul.agha@... wrote:: On 8/1/05, aric <aric@... wrote: Thanks for sharing info with us but unfortunately we can not comprehend Sindhi the beautiful language. Hope to excuse us. I'm sorry to hear that. But we are products of our past and past is prologue -- in Sindhi we say, "guziri saa guzirii" (past is past). To live is to plan for the future and one is never too old to learn. It is always good to expand your horizons by learning about a different culture, and language is the window to culture. Besides, to prosper in Greece, one should learn Greek well; in Sindh, one should learn Sindhi well. This way you can also better understand the Greek or the Sindhi way of thinking, as the case may be. All the best. Peace, -- Gul Agha Champaign, Illinois, USA --------------------------------- [2] From: Regi P George <george_regi@yahoo.com> Date: Tue Aug 2, 2005 Subject: Lost magic of Ayodhya george_regi Lost magic of Ayodhya There is a touch of tragicomedy in the Bharatiya Janata Party's attempts to capture the lost magic of the Ram temple. Ayodhya's heyday was in the early 1990s, and who should know this better than the Hindutva party. Mandir was once the BJP's fearsome war cry; it sent pulses racing and brought in chunks of Hindi heartland votes. Today's Ram temple on the grave of the Babri Masjid is an enfeebled vision, which excites no passion except in the hallowed quarters of Jhandewalan. It has been dragged out to placate a Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh thirsting for Lal Krishna Advani's blood. The farce was all too visible in Rae Bareli where a team led by Mr. Advani tried half-heartedly to evoke temple nostalgia. This was on a day when a Special Court in Sonia Gandhi's political bastion framed charges against the beleaguered BJP chief and seven others in the Babri Masjid demolition case. But 13 years after that barbaric act of vandalism, which took a huge toll of human lives and welfare, the divisive temple issue kindled little emotion among the handful of men and women who had gathered to witness the tamasha. A parody was being staged for all the assembled cared. Sushma Swaraj, going over the top, compared the cases against Mr. Advani, Uma Bharti, and Murli Manohar Joshi to those "foisted on freedom fighters" under British rule. For his part, the BJP chief proclaimed without credibility that the framing of charges by the Special Court had revived the temple movement. The poor turnout ought to have told him otherwise. The attempt to resurrect Ayodhya is fresh evidence that the BJP is in deep crisis. It is a party caught between its sense of independence and self-worth, on the one side, and its `extra-constitutional' loyalty to the RSS, on the other. The party has a new identity that came via co-habitation with allies and electoral success. Its umbilical, family association with the RSS, on the other hand, militates against growth and acceptability. There have always been tensions in the relationship but once the BJP came to power in New Delhi, the equations changed in its favour ??” because it was able to leverage its position in government to keep the RSS in its place. The Sangh threw tantrums but eventually went along, knowing well enough the benefits of being proximate to the party in power. RSS disclaimers notwithstanding, Hindutva is out and out a political construct, as Vinayak Damodar Savarkar made plain. The RSS has made compromises in the past keeping in mind the larger goal of `Hindu Rashtra.' Mr. Advani's Pakistan tour, and in particular his praise of Mohammad Ali Jinnah's August 1947 vision, upset this delicate balance. In the eyes of the Sangh, Mr. Advani's Jinnah appreciation was part of a cunning attempt to wean the BJP away from its ideological parent. These are trying times for Mr. Advani: he walks the tightrope between periodic resort to `Jai Shri Ram' and nudging his party towards a respectable place in democratic politics. http://www.hindu.com/2005/08/01/stories/2005080104481000.htm ------------------------------------------------- [3] From: "sanjeev nayyar" <exploreindia@vsnl.net> Date: Tue Aug 2, 2005 Subject: Re: [indiathinkersnet] Supreme Court repeals IMDT Act,Assam: ReadJudgment let me respond DS. 1. i there a indo nepalese friendship treaty signed in the 1950's by virtue of which nepalis can stay in india, join the indian army etc ie why they can stay in india. There is no such treaty with Bangladesh. 2. yr point on l & t is interesting, would like to read the study, pl mail me or call 9821112693. with prem sanjeev If you are really interested in the problem of illegal migrants then please also talk about Bangladeshi Hindu migrants also. Our students did a small study where they found that even big corporates like L & T emply Bangladeshi migrants and in one particular site there were only Bangladeshi Hindu migrants right here in Powai. Also if migration is such a problem why should we tolerate nepali migrants? Only because they are hindus? Their population is so large in Bombay that Nepali films are screened, nepali newspapers published! -- D. Parthasarathy ---------------------------------------- [4] From: "sanjeev nayyar" <exploreindia@vsnl.net> Date: Tue Aug 2, 2005 Subject: Re: [indiathinkersnet] So much for the allegations of 'appeasement'. MUKUL excerts from dr ambedkar's thoughts on pakistan writeen by him in 1941. Introduction - http://www.esamskriti.com/html/new_inside.asp?cat_name=greatmen&cid=840&sid=149 go to chapter 6. for more details sanjeev Changes in the Communal Composition of the Indian Army Sr Area & Communities % in 1914 % in 1930 No 1. Punjab, NW.F.P & Kashmir 47 58.5 Punjabi Muslims & Pathans 17.3 28.95 Sikhs 19.2 13.58 2. Nepal. Kumaon, Garwhal 15 22 3. Upper India 22 11 Hindustani Muslims 4.1 0 4. South India 16 5.5 5. Burma 0 3 MUSLIMS 24.9 28.95 www.esamskriti.com is for Those who are Passionate about India To subscribe mail - exploreindia@..., to Unsubscribe write back. esamskriti has over 225 articles, 1,000 pictures & a Music Gallery Long Live Sanatan / Kshatriya Dharam. Generate Positive Vibrations lifelong worldwide. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mukul Dube Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [indiathinkersnet] So much for the allegations of 'appeasement'. It should be instructive to look at how many Muslim soldiers and policemen India had before 1947. It may also be jolting. MD -------------------------------------- [5] From: Regi P George <george_regi@yahoo.com> Date: Tue Aug 2, 2005 Subject: Explaining Ahmadinejad August 2005 | 113 ?» Web exclusive ?» Explaining Ahmadinejad How did a hardliner defy expectations to win Iran's presidency? Michael Axworthy http://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/list.php?author=2246 -------------------------------- [6] From: dnrad1 <dnrad1@sancharnet.in> Date: Mon Aug 1, 2005 Subject: : THE PEOPLES' HEARINGS OF FLOOD VICTIMS- BARODA ON 3RD. AUGUST THE PEOPLES' HEARINGS OF FLOOD VICTIMS- BARODA ON 3RD. AUGUST The Concerned Citizens forum for flood victims of Baroda district is holding the first peoples hearing on 3rd. of August, afternoon, at Gandhinagar Gruh.Prior to this Complain Cell was setup near the Collecteriate and Narmada Bhavan, and peoples complains were received and handed over to the authority for redressal. Tapan Dashgupta ------------------------------------------------ [7] From: "Arif N. Khan" <ank2000pk@yahoo.com Date: Tue Aug 2, 2005 Subject: Usurious Practices of Utility Companies in Pakistan ank2000pk WAPDA, KESC, PTCL and Gas Companies have very poor arrangements of delivery and settlement of bills and people are made to stand in long queues often in scorching heat as bills are sent shortly before last due dates. If one does not make the payment within due date, heavy penalty of more ore less 10% per month is levied. which amounts to over 200% p. a. compound interest which is prohibited in Islam. Banks are reluctant to depute more staff even on peak load days as these companies are not willing to pay them commission. Utility companies should encourage payment by crossed cheques and provide drop box facility at different spots as is done in most other countries. Arif Khan http://www.netvert.biz/wordpower -------------------------------------------- [] From: "Arif N. Khan" <ank2000pk@yahoo.com Date: Tue Aug 2, 2005 Subject: Madarsah Phobia - A comment on a story in the News Hi Arif Khan stopped by Jang Group of Newspapers and suggested that you visit the following URL: http://jang.com.pk/thenews/aug2005-daily/02-08-2005/main/main4.htm Here is his message.... It seems that our Western friends are suffering from Madarssah phobia. They think that all madaris teach militancy and jihad/terrorism. It was Gen Zia and his American bosses who had founded training camps in NWFP to train people for armed struggle against soviet occupation of Afghanistan and they nicknamed it as madarsahs but all madarsahs a re not like that. A genuine madarsa teaches virtues of good deeds, kindness, truth, brotherhood, justice, peace etc. If our Mullas critisize Bush and Blair so do millions of US and British citizens who are against war. We should, however, nab those enemy agents who pose like mulla or religious students and who fan sectarian hatred and/or indulge in sabotage. But care should be exercised that good people are not harrassed. Arif Khan |
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