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From: Parvez Jamasji <parvez1942@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu Aug 18, 2005
Subject: 1962 > Re: We don't recognise Arunachal Pradesh: China (25.7.03)  

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Nehru was informed by the then CAS that they had no plans to engage Chinese Forces as that contingency had not been seriously considered ? The views expressed on this subject are extremely interesting and illuminating.
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For History's sake,,,, can we know what these " extremely interesting & illuminating views " were ?????

Its NOT possible ! - hard to believe ! - that no contingency plans " were seriously considered " to engage the Chinese or any 'other forces'.
It is entirely PLAUSIBLE that the "Plans" were forced into OBSCURITY.


40 + years on, the pendulum has swung to the other end.
Now our language displays Utopian dreams, ONCE AGAIN

Not that the Chinese behaviour is new, but do our netas & their wagging tails; know ?

Soon we will go back to "China being India's No 1 enemy".
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
We don't recognise Arunachal Pradesh: China

Anil K Joseph in Beijing | July 25, 2003 18:19 IST

http://rediff.com/news/2003/jul/25china3.htm
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Thanks for your time

Best Wishes

Parvez Jamasji
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From: Parvez Jamasji <parvez1942@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu Aug 18, 2005
Subject: Re: [india-unity] RELIGION AND COMMUNALISM  


2 -3 years ago we were holidaying in Goa during Xmas & New year??™s time.



It was a time when the Taliban was hell bent on projecting the Muslim community as barbaric, to the World.


We & the other guests, including International \ European Tourists were pleasantly surprised to see a Large Muslims Family of Great Grand parents to little Great Grand Children DANCING yes DANCING & making merry - enjoying themselves thoroughly. I'll never forget the Happy scene



I went up to the Patriarch shook his hands & said that his family has done more to dispel the wrong \ false impression carried by most people about the Muslim community.



Now for the ALTERNATIVE, FOR THE HARMONY & UNITY : The track record the World Over shows that it is the Clerics \ Priests of all communities, that are experts in spewing venom, paradoxically.



They exhort people to go on a jihad or yatra, to project ones community??™s 'superiority' . Scarifying the lives of their youngsters.

They are the people misleading their 'flocks' .



Therefore, the alternative for the people is to ignore & castigate such clerics \ mullahs \ pujaries AT EVERY OPERTUNITY.



The Silent Majority should NOT remain Silent any more.

Action SEEN, alone; will dispel wrong notions & bring HARMONY & UNITY.



Silence gives tacit approval & encourages this Barbarism.

Tolerance is the "Devil's advocate"



Long ago my daughter had asked me for a unique topic for discussion in her final year in Collage. I had given her "Religion is the Harbinger of Human Misery.

I passionately believe in it .


Thanks for your time

Parvez Jamasji
http://www.geocities.com/siafdu/vc81.html


Satinath Choudhary <satichou@...> wrote:

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From: "viji123" <viji123@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu Aug 18, 2005
Subject: Re: Between Them and Us .


>It's time we try to calm down and give a thought to " Why Hindu as a
> religion (if it is one of a kind )could not go beyond the then
>Bharat khanda or the present independent India ?" Have answers, ?
>thanks for reading.

1. Hinduism was practised in many countries in South East Asia as can
be seen from their temples, sculptures etc -- Cambodia, Indonesia,
Malaysia, etc

2. Hinduism is not found abroad, for the simple reason that we
believe the truth in all religions, there is no compulsion to convert
people to our religion. We are comfortable them following their own
religion. This is along as they don't try to come and have us change
our beliefs.

Venkitesh (Viji)


--- In indiathinkersnet@yahoogroups.com, Pradeep Deshpande
<proton54@h...> wrote:
> Between Them and Us .. where We be ?
>
> 1. Sanjiv Nayyar's sharp reaction to What Mr. Puniyaniji has tried
to focus on is not not surprising but disguising as well. He has
tried to expose the political attitudes of right wing communal
politics in MP that came to power through democratic process, towards
young college girls to infuse them with some communal doses and
divide the younger generation on communal lines.


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[4]

From: viji <viji123@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu Aug 18, 2005
Subject: 459 blasts in 63 districts in 30 minutes - Bangladesh  

459 blasts in 63 districts in 30 minutes
2 killed; 100 hurt; all explosives were time bombs; Jama'atul Mujahideen leaflets found
Star Report
http://www.thedailystar.net/2005/08/18/d5081801011.htm

In an unprecedented scale of terror attacks, a banned Islamist militant group yesterday simultaneously blasted at least 459 time bombs in 63 of 64 districts across the country.


The 30-minute mayhem in the morning killed one in Chapainawabganj and injured over 100. Another boy was killed in a blast at Savar in the afternoon.
Jama'atul Mujahideen Bangladesh, the banned militant group, claimed responsibility for the blasts through leaflets that left the countrymen in shock.

Panic gripped the country at the extent of the network of the terrorists who meticulously calculated the timing of the bombings between 11:00am and 11:30am, targeting government establishments, mainly the offices of the local district administrations and courts.
Only two hours after Prime Minister Khaleda Zia departed for China on a five-day official tour, a time bomb went off on the stairs inside Zia International Airport, showing a gaping hole in the security system. Three madrasa students and an imam of a mosque were picked up from the airport premises.
In the leaflets, in Bangla and Arabic, found with the bomb devices, Jama'atul, which was banned on February 23 this year, said: "It is time to implement Islamic law in Bangladesh. There is no future with man-made law."
Police randomly arrested at least 45 people including a Mujahideen leader in Satkhira for their suspected involvement in the attacks. Yesterday's attacks were only one in a series of blasts suspected to be carried out by Islamist militants in the last six years, all of which remain unearthed and their investigations halted midway.
Immediately after the blasts that spared only Munshiganj district, State Minister for Home Lutfozzaman Babar told journalists that the attacks were carried out by an well-organised group.
"It is not an isolated incident and done in an organised way with an objective," Babar said, but did not give details about the group.
 
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From: viji <viji123@yahoo.com
Date: Thu Aug 18, 2005
Subject: In Praise of India - On Independence Day


Dear Members

We all agreee India has weakness and strong points. I believe India has more strong points than weaknesses. Thousands of communities of different beliefs, races, languages, jatis, lifetstyles and values still are able live in peaceful existence not today or yesterday for for several thousands of India.

People may criticize or find shortcomings in our systems. But the above cannot be found in any other country or civilization over such a long period of time.

A. H. Venkitesh (Viji)

In Praise of India

1. Will Durant, American historian: "India was the motherland of our race, and Sanskrit the mother of Europe's languages: she was the mother of our philosophy; mother, through the Arabs, of much of our mathematics; mother, through the Buddha, of the ideals embodied in Christianity; mother, through the village community, of self-government and democracy. Mother India is in many ways the mother of us all"

2. Mark Twain, American author: "India is, the cradle of the human race, the birthplace of human speech, the mother of history, the grandmother of legend, and the great grand mother of tradition. our most valuable and most instructive materials in the history of man are treasured up in India only."

3. Albert Einstein, American scientist: "We owe a lot to the Indians, who taught us how to count, without which no worthwhile scientific discovery could have been made."

4. Max Mueller, German scholar: If I were asked under what sky the human mind has most fully developed some of its choicest gifts, has most deeply pondered on the greatest problems of life, and has found solutions, I should point to India.

5. Romain Rolland, French scholar : "If there is one place on the face of earth where all the dreams of living men have found a home from the very earliest days when man began the dream of existence, it is India."

6. Hu Shih, former Ambassador of China to USA: "India conquered and dominated China culturally for 20 centuries without ever having to send a single soldier across her border."

7. Mark Twain: "So far as I am able to judge, nothing has been left undone, either by man or nature, to make India the most extraordinary country that the sun visits on his rounds. Nothing seems to have been forgotten, nothing overlooked."

8. Keith Bellows, VP - National Geographic Society : "There are some parts of the world that, once visited, get into your heart and won??™t go. For me, India is such a place. When I first visited, I was stunned by the richness of the land, by its lush beauty and exotic architecture, by its ability to overload the senses with the pure, concentrated intensity of its colors, smells, tastes, and sounds... I had been seeing the world in black & white and, when brought face-to-face with India, experienced everything re-rendered in brilliant technicolor."

9. Mark Twain: "India has two million gods, and worships them all. In religion all other countries are paupers; India is the only millionaire."

10. A Rough Guide to India: "It is impossible not to be astonished by India. Nowhere on Earth does humanity present itself in such a dizzying, creative burst of cultures and religions, races and tongues. Enriched by successive waves of migration and marauders from distant lands, every one of them left an indelible imprint which was absorbed into the Indian way of life. Every aspect of the country presents itself on a massive, exaggerated scale, worthy in comparison only to the superlative mountains that overshadow it. It is this variety which provides a breathtaking ensemble for experiences that is uniquely Indian. Perhaps the only thing more difficult than to be indifferent to India would be to describe or understand India completely. There are perhaps very few nations in the world with the enormous variety that India has to offer. Modern day India represents the largest democracy in the world with a seamless picture of unity in diversity unparalleled anywhere else."

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From: Parvez Jamasji <parvez1942@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu Aug 18, 2005
Subject: IQ ???????????????

1. Ganesh Naik has been refused admission to 'The Thana Institution' due to fear he may thwart the recovery of patients & inmates therein, he may also cause mental trauma to its staff.

2. While under ten children gave a Heart Warming performance for our Independence Day,
our Corporaters gave a heart rending performance by beating & clanging vessels in the BMC Hall, while discussing the Flood & its aftermath; in Bombay.

This is commentary Not ONLY on the IQ of the elected but also on the IQ of the electorate.


Mera Bharat Mahan ??????????????
India Super Power or Super - - - - ?

Thanks for your time

Best Wishes

Parvez Jamasji
 
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