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[1] From: "Aditya Mishra" <aditya11@sbcglobal.net> Date: Wed Nov 9, 2005 Subject: Re: [indiathinkersnet] Re: [Mahajanapada] temple entry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Regi P George" <george_regi@...> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 9:37 PM Subject: [indiathinkersnet] Re: [Mahajanapada] temple entry > Since God is not a private property so far under any WTO/GATT or > Forthcoming Patent laws how could you claim the place of worship is > private and not a place to visit and enjoy? If your place of worship is > not a place to visit and enjoy then what is the difference between a > graveyard and worship place. God may not be private property but a temple is. A temple is build and paid by an individual or groups of individuals and they have every right to keep it private. If it is built by public funds then it may be public property but under constitution government is not allowed to promote or build any religious places. ------------------ [2] From: Parvez Jamasji <parvez1942@yahoo.com> Date: Wed Nov 9, 2005 8:14am Subject: RE: [indiathinkersnet] Complaint about Junk journalism & bulky newspapers to Press Council of India. THINK ENVIRONMENT, THINK CLEAN AIR TO BREATHE. DON'T CUT TREES TO PRODUCE MEDIA TRASH Thanks for your time Best Wishes Parvez Jamasji http://www.geocities.com/siafdu/vc81.html >From: MUMBAIKAR <madhu_sawant2000@...> > >To, > > Shri S. Jaipal Reddy, > Hon.Minister of Information & Broadcasting > New-Delhi > (sjaipal@...) > > 2.The Secretary, >Press Council of India, >Soochna Bhavan, 8-C.G.O. Complex, >Lodhi Road, New Delhi-110003 >Email : pcids@... > >Sub:-Complaint about Junk journalism & bulky newspapers to Press Council of India, which may cause Environ-damage. > >Dear Sir, ------------------------- [3] From: Regi P George <george_regi@yahoo.com> Date: Wed Nov 9, 2005 Subject: Re: [indiathinkersnet] A K Antony and Congress try to rewrite IndianHistory - Full Circle Antony was the political leader who co-coordinated Vimochana Samaram (Liberation Struggle) against an elected communist govt. with the support of all religious and communal outfits of kerala irrespective of thier religious identity. This is the beginning of religion and communal aliments entry to Kerala politics. Antony still enjoys all these communal elements support in politics more than any other political leader of Kerala. Antony's Vimochana Samaram -These are the same days students USED for political motives and Antony is the single leader who taught keralites in the name of this same strike how to destroy public property. Still antony carry his flimsy stand on communal politics he is much familiar to kerala politics for supporting Sangparivar and RSS and for having softness to RSS agenda in Kerala. Antony named Indira "Bharatha Yakshi" (Indian Ghost) on post emergency period. He split congress in Kerala and his groups aligned with the communists to form a new front in Kerala at that time but after few years he realised Indira will be more powerful in Indian politics and in congress than any other leader he move back to congress without giving any reason for his departure from the left front. Antony is notorious for his statements like Minorities should obey the whip of majority in a country like India and the term Hindutva hurts our majority communities feelings (at the time when West Bengal Education minister called for an all state minister of Education meet to protest against Parivar Agenda in Education under Vajpey govt.) Antony as an ACC senior leader still keep good relation with Sangparivar; He keep an eye on Indian Presidents post after Kalams term or bit more later to get himself as a common candidate for this post he keeping his relation the best with sangparivar. Antony as an individual never visited his mother properly at her home but after her death many times he visited her graveyard with arranged journalists and photographers support and felt unconscious at site. His wife is a manager in public sector bank. As chief minister, MLA, MP, Cabinet Minister in Central Govt. he is earning good salary or pension along with his wife??™s income but appear in the media as very poor financially. Many times he used this kind of jimmicks for his political mileage and sympathy from the public to reach the top position with an Ideal leaders name. Antony was Chief minister to Kerala for 3times and each term end with 2 different communal riots each. He is notorious for using all rightwing media support for jimmicks. Ommen Chandi the current Chiefminister of Kerala is notorious for practicing a political carrier of Pro-sangparivar was antonys main broker with Sangparivar. Antony, K. Karunakaran, Ommen Chandy, Ramesh Chennithala are few old and new congress leaders notorious for Sangparivar relations. Ramesh Chennithala the present KPCC President year??™s back was a poor tutorial college Hindi teacher today his property includes laxurious apartment in Delhi with swimming pool. Vineyards in Karnataka and he is very notorious for illicit relation with liquor lobby in Karnataka and Kerala. Only the recent congress return to power at Delhi made Chennithala rethinking to stay back in congress from crossing his political carrier to Sangparivar. nandakumar nair <unnair@...> wrote:Full Circle U Nandakumar Nair Was there a call to the army to disobey prior to the emergency? I truly do not know. This, however was the comment made by Mr Antony. All that I would know is that the speech by Jayaprakash Narayan is being used to create this argument. To my knowledge there has been no evidence to suggest that the Indian army was restive or that the so called call was the real has been on for clamping emergency. Perhaps Mr Antony (who had already become the KPCC President) an important person within the Congress at that time and fame for his Guwahati speech would know. ----------------------- [4] From: Sukla Sen <suklasen@yahoo.com> Date: Wed Nov 9, 2005 7:52pm Subject: Shashi Tharoor on Volcker Report [Even a cursory look at the list of political entities named by the report makes it amply clear that it's meant to be a tool to embarrass those who had opposed US invasion of Iraq and buttress the claim that Saddam Hussain indulged in illegalities. (Natwar Singh never talked of suing the UN, presumably because the body enjoys legal immunity.) The media has unleashed a tirade against him, whose name appears in one of the annexure, and is keeping mum on the business houses, which've been named in the main report. Strange sense of morality indeed! More than that, it reflects the Indian elite??™s aspiration to bask in the reflected glory of the global hegemon and in the process emerge as a regional one by becoming its junior partner edging aside the traditional rival Pakistan. It's not so much a case of loss of national sovereignty per se but more of (mis)using the national sovereignty in collaborating with the Empire. However, the successful emergence of the US as the unchallengeable hegemon would definitely entail severe curtailment of national sovereignty of all others including India. And the process of becoming the junior partner itself will have its serious adverse impact.] http://in.rediff.com/news/2005/nov/09inter1.htm The Rediff Interview/UN Under Secretary General Shashi Tharoor 'India has done the right thing on Volcker report' November 09, 2005 As the United Nations Under Secretary General for Communications and Public Information Shashi Tharoor is most qualified to talk about the controversy generated by the Volcker Committee's investigations into the misuse of Iraq's Oil-for-Food programme when UN sanctions were in force. Its findings -- which, among things -- state that former external affairs minister K Natwar Singh and the Congress party received illegal benefits in the form of vouchers from the Saddam Hussein regime. Deputy Managing Editor Ramananda Sengupta managed to buttonhole Tharoor for a quick interview in Mumbai on the controversy that has generated tremendous political heat in India. Complete coverage: The Volcker report How actionable is the Volcker report? The Volcker Committee is a committee of inquiry; it is not a judicial panel. And it is not in a position to make any judicial determinations of guilt. In Indian terms it is more like a fact-finding committee. It has laid out a number of facts that it has been able to establish with varying degrees of proof and substantiation. The onus thereafter, is on national governments, national authorities, to take such action as they deem appropriate. And in each of these countries there has been a different reaction in different cases -- you've heard that the Russian government has dismissed some of the charges as fabricated, as forged. And you've also heard that the French have arrested even a former ambassador as part of their investigations. Each country is handling each case differently depending on the amount of information made available. What Indian laws have been broken? The Indian government has done absolutely the right thing in setting up a commission of inquiry because it is in the interest of everybody, including those named in the report, to have the truth established. There has been talk about Natwar Singh suing the United Nations. What kind of action would that entail? Has it been done before? No, that's going to be a problem because the UN benefits from the privileges and immunities that are not only enshrined in the charter of the UN but in all cases the countries acceding to the UN charter have passed domestic laws granting privileges and immunities to the UN. So I don't think even in the laws of India it would be possible to sue the UN. The Congress' idiotic threat to the UN! How could Natwar Singh get access to the documents which name him? Now that is a very fair question that he has every right to ask because you have somebody impugned in public without some information given to them, that they have a chance to respond to. Now it appears that the Volcker Committee is under the impression that it has sent the notification to the people named and it appears that neither Natwar Singh nor the Congress party who have been named have received such a notification. And that is one of the things that is going to have to be established. The US does not like Natwar Singh I believe the Indian government has asked Mr Virendra Dayal to look into all the information available. Mr Virendra Dayal is somebody I have known for a very long time, a man of unimpeachable integrity and an amazing record. He also knows the UN system very well. So we couldn't have found a better person. I am sure if there is anything to be found in this matter he will find it. And then with the Commission of Inquiry by Justice Pathak, I feel reasonably confident that we will be able to get a fairly detailed understanding of what transpired. If Natwar Singh wants to challenge this report, how could he do that? At this point the only proceeding is a domestic proceeding. In other words any challenge that would have to be made would have to be made in a submission to the Pathak Commission. This is my understanding. Natwar Singh stripped of portfolio Now obviously I would not in any way want to imply any restrictions on any individual's right to challenge those who are revealing information that he may believe is wrong. He may certainly deal with Mr Volcker, write to Mr Volcker if he wants but there are no further proceedings in the Volcker Committee. And there are no further proceedings in the United Nations on this matter. Once the report came out, the only action that remained was for national governments to look into the matter. The charges made against Natwar Singh, would you consider them to be instances of political graft as it is technically known? I would not want to characterise these charges. In a more general way without referring to any specific case there has been a pattern under which the Saddam Hussein regime gave vouchers to various people who were sympathetic to the regime and these vouchers entitled people to lift a certain amount of oil. In some cases the vouchers were used and in some the vouchers were given; in other cases they were sold or traded. And in some cases they were returned or discarded. So as I said there was no presumption of guilt. Natwar, son visited Iraq, says businessman If indeed there is some indication that you have -- how shall I put it? -- that you have a real case against somebody for allegedly earning benefits from the voucher, you still have to see what happened to the voucher. That's the general proceeding and as I said, we in appointing Volcker were particularly interested in any actions involving UN personnel and UN procedures. But Mr Volcker came across information over a couple of thousand individuals and companies from all around the world. And that is beyond the scope of anything the UN can look in to, so we are not making any pronouncements or passing any judgements on the cases that are in your mind here. What are you doing here in Mumbai, or India for that matter? I was actually on leave. Much to my dismay my leave has been completely consumed by this event and I have been as a result not being able to enjoy time. My mother is here with me and we are just trying to have a bit of a break. I am also addressing, I am a member of the International Board of Overseers of Tufts University. I studied in the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy, where I did my PhD, which is part of Tufts University. And that university has brought an international board to India; there is an increasing discovery of India on the part of American universities and they have invited me to come and address their group and participate in some of their meetings, and I was doing that on my own time, on my own leave. And that I am continuing to do in between these various demands on Volcker. Photograph: Jewella C Miranda |
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